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Fred Jonas's avatar

It seems to me we're missing something. It's certainly true that in theory, it was breathtakingly careless and thoughtless to have the whole government leadership in one room, mostly at one table. The exception was the president pro tempore of the senate, who wasn't there.

But to me, the larger question is why this keeps happening. I'm aware of Butler, PA, and two days ago, but I hear various clown sycophants talk about "three" attempts. So I looked it up. According to a site that calls itself "Factually," but cautions that it's not always right (so not reliably factual), there have been six attempts, starting as far back as June, 2016.

My daughter likes to quote her grandfather (my late father), who said that when you think everyone else is the problem, then you're the problem. Matt Damon's character in "Rounders" put it a different way: if you can't spot the sucker in your first half hour of poker, then you're the sucker.

So our princess, the clown, can't for an instant stop talking about her White House ballroom as a method of security, which she says we've needed for 150 years (so why hasn't anyone built one, especially during Truman's term, when extensive White House renovation was done?). But the more important question is why no one ever tried three times, or six times, to assassinate the president. Is the problem DC/government security, or is it the president, who is now the princess?

Susan Rose's avatar

If you continue to push people to their limit with your incompetence, evil bigotry, hatred and lies then some people are going to reach their limit of tolerance and act on it. It's kind of obvious I think ...

Fred Jonas's avatar

Cheney/W were bad. The worst ever, I thought at the time. Nixon was bad. No attempt was made on any of them. Reagan was bad (and was only shot once). Some others have been shot once, and some have died. Not one has been attacked more than once, to my knowledge, and certainly not three or six times.

I realize that there has been talk that the attacks on the princess were staged. Maybe so. But it's still a lot of attacks.

Susan Rose's avatar

I just learnef that there were numerous attempts on President Obama’s life. You should research that if this subject interests you. A nightmare no matter what …

Fred Jonas's avatar

It probably doesn't interest me. This is a very racist country, and I wouldn't be surprised if some people considered his terms, and him, unacceptable. Did anyone make contact?

Susan Rose's avatar

So sorry, I don't know the details. However, now that you have brought this up I think I will see what I can learn. I do not recall the attacks on Obama, but I am not shocked with all the horrendous bigotry in this country. They gave him nothing but grief, but he didn't back down. I love that man, and would give anything to see him as President now!!!

Fred Jonas's avatar

I thought Obama was OK, but not great. It was great to have him there, because it suggested we were civilized, but I didn't think he did a great job. Charming guy, great persona, but he needed to be more focused and progressive. Remember he started out as a community organizer. He knew what the problems were, and what tasks had to be instituted.

There are three issues that sort of stick in my craw. The first was that he accepted a Nobel Prize, seemingly for getting elected. That was a credit to us, not to him. The second was that he inherited a very large debt from the Cheney/W years, and was blamed for it from day 1 (as if he could have been responsible for something that already existed), but he did not lean on Congress to raise taxes on the rich. (He let the debt continue to increase, and so did Biden later, because of the same failure.) The third was as good an idea as the ACA was, he left paying for medical access in the hands of the private insurance companies. This corrupted the whole idea, by preserving the requirement for deductibles and copays, so that some Americans who now had an insurer were not actually insured (if they couldn't afford the deductible and the copays). If I had to choose a fourth complaint about Obama, it would be that he was conciliatory to Republicans (he said so!), who were going to work against him no matter what he did. You should "go home with the one who brung ya." He should have devoted himself to the people whose enthusiasm and hope elected him, not to the people he was never going to win over anyway.

Randy's avatar

One, cabinet had no need to be there, 2 not government function, won't ever be held in ballroom

3 it's not something anyone wants

4 now tax dollars to keep president safe when he's the cause of all problems

5 he will be gone anyway so no vanity for a destroyed administration.

Fred Jonas's avatar

Randy, I only agree with your points 1 through 5.

It will be my great pleasure to have tax dollars used to raze the princess' ballroom (is she expecting a prince to show up?), and remove her name from every place where it now appears.

Dorothy Grant g's avatar

If it smells like a fish and looks like a fish i would say it is fishy

JOHN VICEDOMINI's avatar

We can narrate and re-narrate Trump’s BS till the cows come home. We can point out the discrepancies the contradictions the hidden agendas etc all day long. Many of us know that he’s a loser and is taking over our democracy courtesy of the big tech bro boys. The time for merely pointing this all out has passed us and he must be forcibly removed along with his entire corrupt cabinet. Start to send a message politely and participate in the May Day Nationwide Workers Strike.

Kevin Flynn's avatar

It's called Hubris. Pretty simple and right in front of your fucking eyes. If the Trump government isn't the textbook definition of that word then I'll eat a Big Mac.

Susan Rose's avatar

As always, you do not disappoint with your coverage of yet another incident providing further proof of how incompetent this regime is. Not that we need more proof, we already have more than enough. They do not know how to do anything correctly and certainly do not concern themselves with the well being of this country because they do not care about this country or us. It is all about them and only them.

But there is something else I cannot help think about. The sad, disgraceful truth to all this incompetent lack of following protocol is that in this case it really doesn't matter who was in that room. There is not one competent person among them capable of leading this country - not one, especially the one who supposedly is the president. Any one of countless people in government positions could do a better job leading the country than any of these individuals. That is the truth.

And because the constant lies being told to us have eroded our trust, of course we cannot help but question the validity of anything to do with this event. Obviously if they stock "the room" with all the important people, no one would ever suspect a deliberate event for the sake of getting the go ahead for his "ballroom" and dropping the lawsuit. Or the ratings if this regime continue to plummet, we need to appeal to the public's sympathetic side and make ourselves victims - once again. It is not as though the tactic of distraction hasn't been used throughout this term - because it certainly has.

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